After Darkness, Light 

 

NOTE: This page concerns lies that were told about me in early 2004. For information on the big news of 2006, the defrocking of RC Sproul Jr and three other elders, follow this link.

 

I Prefer My Red Herring With Dill Sauce

 

• By Harry Seabrook

I've been a fan of RC Sproul Jr's longer than I've been a fan of his famous father's. That hasn't changed, even though he has decided to dispute me in public (Every Thought Captive, Vol. 8, No. 1) rather than in private, which strikes me as odd behavior from a pastor. I never flinch from a debate, and this will be no exception, but I can't for the life of me understand how RC has the nerve to print such blatant misrepresentations.

RC and I have never discussed race (allow that statement to sink in as you read on). However, I did respond to an article he wrote last August called "What We Mean By We." One line from that article sets the stage for what follows: "These United States, we pray, will not become more European, but more Christian." In my comments to the article, I asked if he agrees with this statement by Thomas Fleming: "Politicians in Washington tell us we should be loyal to what they call 'the American way of life'; if that phrase means anything, however, it should refer to the customs, religion, and culture of the British and European settlers who came to the New World and replanted their traditions in fresh soil, where they yielded a rich harvest. If we are to trust the politicians, we should be loyal to the Christian religion, Western culture, European peoples, and the Anglo-American language, political institutions, and legal traditions. But all of these are under constant assault from the state and federal government agencies that are now demanding our loyalty. Christians cannot pray in the schools they pay for with their taxes or pretend that their traditions are equal (much less superior) to the religions and cultures of devil-worshipers, cannibals, polygamists, female-circumcisers, wife-burners, and child-sacrificers. Americans not only must bow to the superiority of non-Western cultures; they also have to import their representatives in such large numbers as to threaten the bare survival of their own people and culture." I sincerely sought dialogue but received none. Yet on Jan. 5, 2004, he kindly wrote to console me on the loss of my job:

I pray you and your family are well. I understand through the grapevine that you have recently lost your job. Welcome to the club. I pray this transition won't be too traumatic for you.

I'm writing because I understand that you have determined to use this sad news in your thinking about moving. Your dear wife mentioned to Debbie Saenz that you were thinking of two places, but didn't mention what they were. In fairness to you, on the chance that one of those places might be here, I thought I would write you. You are, of course, welcome to come here. We would find, I'm sure, a great deal in common. But you ought to know at least two things if you are considering a move here. First, we obviously have different views on race than you do. And our views have actually taken on flesh here. By the grace of God there are currently two little black boys in our congregation, and three little babies that are the fruit of an "intermarriage" between a person of European descent and a person of African descent. (We also have a half European and half Mexican member of our church, and he married another European lady, ***.) That's not to mention the Indian, Cambodian, Korean, and Philipino children in the church. I'm confident that every father in the church would be delighted to have his daughters marry any of these young men, assuming they continue to grow in grace and reflect the godly character of their parents. I don't know how important your views on these kinds of issues are to you (nor am I sure I know everything there is to know about your views), but I thought it prudent to let you know where we are.

Secondly, we are going to be addressing some of these issues in the January/February ETC. Our theme is, "Neither Jew Nor Greek." What may surprise you is that you are the recipient of the Open Letter. I pray you will find it, as it seeks to challenge what I perceive your views to be, a polite and gentle rebuke from a friend, who, as yet, has no authority over you.

As I said, none of this means that you can't come here, if such was a part of your thinking. It is simply an attempt to let you know to what you would be coming. Our convictions are not merely a craven attempt to keep the liberals from getting mad at us. We actually mean it.

I responded:

I'm glad you've given me this opportunity to make clear what I believe. I hold no ill will against other races. In fact, I think we would all get along better if we truly respected the diversity of God's creation and refrained from miscegenation. But I also hold no animus against intermarried couples. I haven't even called intermarriage a sin (though Ezra and Nehemiah come close) because I don't see it explicitly called a sin in Scripture. I've only said that it's to be strongly discouraged (and in fact is rare) because it and free immigration will lead to the dissolution of our once white Christian country. I've determined to write what I believe to be true on Little Geneva regardless of who it might offend, but I also hope I've put across the idea that, as Christians, we need to love our brothers and sisters. A part of that is knowing that we all fall short, myself included. My paramount objective is to give our people a taste of what our church fathers and founding fathers believed, and try to return our people to that path. Some of it is shocking because we've been hypnotized by the media and trained to parrot the conventional wisdom of the last 50 years or so. I don't have much use for 1950 on.

So I'm not sure how our views on race are different, except possibly, as you say, the potential willingness in the congregation to intermarry. I acknowledge that not all races are the same, but all are equally loved by God. He is the one who made us different, and I see no reason to rebuild Babel by pretending either that race doesn't exist or that nurture is the only thing that makes us different. I do not call intermarriage a sin, but I strongly oppose it, and I am not smart enough to know where the line should be drawn. So when in doubt, I think we should let the fifth commandment guide us. If the parents involved are willing, let it be. (Our forefathers would have also added that the clear line of demarcation is between the descendants of the sons of Noah.) One point I've made repeatedly is that we have about a 3% rate of miscegenation in this country. If we still had arranged marriages or courtship as the norm, we would probably have a rate of zero percent. Far be it from me to say that every single exception to the rule is wrong. I'm hated only because I say out loud what everyone already knows and the statistics prove: interracial marriage is an abnormality. By the way, if we look back far enough, we are probably all of mixed blood to some extent. I happen to have at least one Cherokee ancestor, but I identify with the white race. That's how my children are raised, these are the customs we hold dear, these are the people like us and who make us comfortable. I'm sure this is true of the *** family as well. I had Confederate ancestors who escaped to Brazil, joined a large pool of other refugees, and intermarried with the natives. You might say they formed a new race that is not entirely like the American Confederates and not entirely like the Brazilians. They have their own distinctives. The point is that we associate with those who are like us, and nothing could be healthier. Only the most dire circumstances cause us to change. War is one. I would say that you're in the middle of another unusual situation. My guess is that most of your congregation is assembled from various parts of the country because they are so starved for biblical fellowship and biblical teaching. They are willing to uproot themselves from ancestral lands in order to pursue it, and I applaud them.

Rushdoony said that the burden of the law regarding being equally yoked meant that cross-cultural and inter-racial marriages are as wrong as inter-religious marriages because the woman is unable to fully be a helper to her husband. There is just not enough in common. I agree with him. Racial commonality is important, and our common faith is important. We have Christian brothers and sisters all over the world, but that may be all we have in common.

RC chose to reply publicly in the newsletter, which did not arrive until early March, rather than correspond with me. Notice, in the "open letter" addressed to me by first name only, he writes: "I have written you before, though in an entirely different format, trying to help you understand where our identity is, trying to help you see that believers of every stripe are closer kin to us than unbelieving, anti-leviathan, agrarian, southern patriots. Your sad response seemed to concede that heaven will have a Jew or two, and some people of color." What he doesn't say is that he wrote to me (above) to notify me of his intention to make me the subject of his newletter. He received the clarification of my views, and rather than make further inquiries personally, he simply reworked the open letter he had already written. Does this strike anyone else as odd? Are you aware of any other pastors who do this? Does the reader gather that I "seem to concede" any such thing as that "heaven will have a Jew or two, and some people of color"? Might it behoove the competent journalist to ask if this is indeed true before announcing it? I'm only getting started with the questions, but let's cut to the chase:

0 Brother
Dear Brother Harry,

I pray you will remember that the Bible tells us that the rebuke of a friend is like a kiss. I do indeed consider you a friend, and pray that when you have finished you will be able to say the same of me. I have written you before, though in an entirely different format, trying to help you understand where our identity is, trying to help you see that believers of every stripe are closer kin to us than unbelieving, anti-leviathan, agrarian, southern patriots. Your sad response seemed to concede that heaven will have a Jew or two, and some people of color. You then virtually grudgingly determined that you think you might be able to enjoy heaven anyway. You then went on to explain to me that race is simply family extended, and that we have a duty of loyalty there. But I'm far more concerned about helping you, my brother, and your friends who profess the name of Christ, than I am trying to eradicate the same errors from those Scots who will not name Him.

Words like "seemed" and "virtually" are useful because they convey the impression that the subsequent words were actually spoken.

I can't pretend to know what drives you. I can admit that after years of having our shared commitments to the sovereignty of God, and the evils of the state looked upon as the ravings of a madman, that I am tempted not to join our ideological enemies because I can't beat them, but drive them mad by taking ever more extreme positions. I can admit that I am tempted to reaction, to adopt an epistemology and an ethic that says, "Whatever the left says, the opposite is true." (And I trust you have seen already that the left is often wildly wrong on issues of race.) I don't understand what you're thinking, how you can be so right on so many things, and so wrong here.

What I can do is call you to repent. Not only do you seek to tear asunder what God has brought together, the very bride of His Son, but you have muddled the proclamation of the gospel to the lost. No, I'm not saying you have to be racially sensitive to call people to repent. I'm not saying that we should meet people where they are by trying to talk in ebonics. Rather, I'm arguing that you must call people to repent for their sin, not their ethnic heritage.

I hope you're beginning to see why all of this confuses me. If there are people out there who don't like me, the feeling is probably mutual. But to accuse me of sin is another matter entirely. No examples are offered for how I am tearing apart the body of Christ or muddling the proclamation of the gospel. These are serious charges, and it seems to me that some evidence would be in order. For instance, when have I ever called anyone to repent for his ethnicity? There are three years of Little Geneva archives that can be searched in a matter of milliseconds.

That is, even if there were some sort of Jewish conspiracy, the problem would [sic] the conspiracy, not the Jews. If assorted Jewish businessmen are "running" Hollywood, and spewing forth cultural garbage, the issue isn't what they put on their census, but what they put on the screen. You can't call someone to repent of their parents. They can only repent of their sin. The answer isn't for them to somehow become uncircumcised, but that by the grace of God they might have their hearts circumcised.

Those last few lines are profound. I wish I had said them first.

The strange irony is your racism is an implicit denial of your post-millenialism. Jesus rules over all things. As such, there is no neutral thing we call "culture" whereby we politely note that some blacks or Jews will go to heaven, but that here on earth we go our segregated ways. No, the Lordship of Christ transforms every culture, or rather consumes every culture as He builds His own. Such doesn't mean a lack of variety, a denial of all distinctives, but it does mean a true blending of those distinctives.

And there's the rub. "Racism" is one of those words that never needs to be defined when preaching to the choir, but it seems that the risk of tarnishing a brother's good name would warrant circumspection. It's difficult for me to say anything other than "Did not!" since no specific examples of my speech have been offered, but hopes are high that we'll see a few.

Segregation is a guiding principle in the life of every man and woman. This is why RC moved to Bristol rather than Detroit. I'm sure that the minorities in his church are fine people, but it is hardly a news flash that most blacks, whites, Koreans, etc., prefer to congregate in separate churches and neighborhoods. Until about 30 years ago, most people considered this healthy and natural, not racist. The members of St. Peter's Presbyterian also choose to segregrate themselves to some degree, as do all homeschoolers. I'll retract that statement if they choose to put their money where their mouths are and move to an inner city. The mission field awaits!

It is both true that we are all one loaf, and that the kingdom unites, and yet keeps distinct unleavened bread, corn bread, and even our pathetic culture's contribution to the bake-off-- anemic, Gnostic white bread. All the colors will not bleed into one. They will be what they are, and what they are will still be one. The kingdom of God rejects both a Unitarian uniformitarianism, and a polytheistic Balkanization. There is no dingy brown melting pot. Nor is there a bag full of marbles. Instead there is a tapestry, a beautiful marriage of complexity in harmony.

I agree with every word.

The truth is, Harry, I admire you. You have a courage that earns respect. You have an insight that demonstrates deliberateness. You have, at the same time, the character that defines the southern gentleman, and the racial confusion to [sic] defines the bigot, whatever side of the Mason-Dixon line contains his home. I also think I know something about what it's like to be you. I'd wager this isn't the first time you've heard this from your friends. I have dozens of friends who likewise think I'm a swell guy, full of courage and wisdom, but whose blind spots turn the world off. When people tell me to tone down the rhetoric, to become a softer, gentler me, I hear the voice of the devil. I can only hope that because we have shared that experience, that you will believe that I am not the devil.

My hope is that you will repent. That your virtues are apparent doesn't diminish your sin. For racism is not only the failure to love ordinately, it is the failure to love those whom the Father loves, those for whom the Son died, those in whom the Spirit dwells. I know, I know. You would not characterize your views as racist. But if such were so, race would never be an issue with you. You would not turn up your nose at your distant cousins. Far less would you love those in your temporal family more than those in your eternal family.

Wow! I have said that God gives various races different gifts, and it is absurd to say that one race is better than another. No man can quantify such a thing. It is enough to say that races are different. But all races have in common the potential to be saved because the gospel has gone forth to the Gentiles. We will see all the colors of the rainbow in heaven, but as the last chapter of the Bible tells us, these saints are described as "nations" (plural). I would have gladly told all of this to RC if he had bothered to ask.

Race is an issue of concern to me because our once-mighty nation is disintegrating as it integrates. By all means, let's continue to baptize the lost, but let's also recognize that there is strength in homogeneity and weakness in heterogeneity. He implies that I love an unsaved white man more than a saved black man, but this is a distortion of my comment to his article "What We Mean By We." I said, "You probably have believers and non-believers in your extended family, but you are still kin, and I would worry about you if you didn't love them more than strangers (even strange fellow believers). If I say I love my children more than the children down the street, it doesn't mean that I hate the children down the street. (In fact, I wish the best for them and will gladly help them in need.)"

Harry, please, repent. Our enemies are the seed of the serpent, wherever their ancestors spring from. And our family is the seed of the woman, wherever their ancestors spring from. And as time goes on, my brother, remember that more and more of the seed of the serpent, from every corner of the globe, will become the seed of the woman. Where their ancestors spring from is, to quote a sometimes insightful heathen, "of no more significance, than the color of their eyes." Remember that we too were strangers to the covenant, that we who were once not a people are now the people of God. Remember that if the nature could be cut off, so too could we. Love your Father, how He works for you. Love your Mother, she bore you. Love your sister, she's good to you. Love your brother, your brother.

Your Brother,
R.C. Sproul Jr.

A nobody like me is an easier target than RJ Rushdoony, even though our racial views are practically indistinguishable. By the way, refuting RJR from Scripture would be a commendable challenge for an enterprising and foolhardy young theologian, if someone out there is man enough to accept it.

Stick with us, because we'll be cutting into the meat of this newsletter in the days to come. We've only seen the first page so far.

To my knowledge, RC only makes one other reference to Little Geneva, on his "Spirit of the Fruit" lecture. He says that he does not believe in race, but then he entirely proves my point that racial loyalty is concentric. He also acknowledges Steve Sailer's dictum that a race is an inbred extended family. So when RC says that he doesn't believe in race, he is railing against an idea that is not only hard for me to understand but hard for him to express. All he can imply in this lecture is that Little Geneva is a website for foolish Galatians who are repeating the heresy of the Judaizers. "All the Judaizers cared about was flesh, flesh, flesh." Therefore, racialists are Judaizers. Legalists add to the grace of God, he says, and deny that both Jews and Greeks can be saved. I'm doing my best to decipher because he doesn't say exactly what he means. Presumably, because we come from a traditionally obedient people (whom he doesn't call a race because he doesn't believe in race), we are prone to trust in our heritage for our salvation. Does RC even bother to ask if we believe the color of our flesh can save us? He has never asked me. He took it upon himself to accuse me of sin, and he owes me an apology.

I'll be curious to see who comes to my defense and the defense of my compatriots in the days to come. The battle is joined, through no choice of my own. I wish to live at peace with all men. It just so happens that I have a very old-fashioned view of what is required to secure the peace. And for this, I am accused of sin by those who should know better.

One final quibble before I end section 1 of this gentle fulmination: Every other open letter I've read clearly addresses the recipient. There's a very simple reason for this: to allow the recipient to defend himself. If the recipient is not allowed to defend himself, the writer has a duty to refrain from indicting him publicly. Otherwise, we are left with rhetorical flourish and nothing more. "That RC shore is a purty talker." "Yeah, he really gave someone named 'Harry' what for." I would hope that even those who don't particularly like me are outraged at these cowardly tactics.